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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:37 am
by Matti
I wonder if there are any lazairs here in Europe?
I really would love owning one.

Matti Rissanen
Finland

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:05 pm
by Shannon
Hello Matti,

A guy named Hakan (last name unknown) in Sweden has a Series 2. He has not requested any information or participated on the Lazair groups since Dec 2003. His last known e-mail address is hw@semera.se

There are 4-5 Lazairs in England also.

Shannon

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:04 pm
by Chappy
Ultraflight had rather high hopes for a British market for their Lazair. They went so far as to put it through the British Microlight certification. IIRC, their English dealer handled a good portion of it. Very little actually had to be addressed. One change that was required by them that I do remember was to stop using nylock nuts on the bolts that could rotate that were used in the control system. I wonder how many ailerons were lost before Ultraflight did that? Actually, I do know of one. Dale Kramer himself was flying a company demonstrator at Sun n' Fun when an aileron tore off - after one of the nylock nuts worked off an aileron pivot bolt.

Chappy in Virginia

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:30 pm
by flyalaz
Was there a factory fix? Cotter pins and castellated nuts?

Karl

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:03 pm
by Guest
Karl,

Yes, that's what was done. I don't remember exactly when that made it to all the kits, but I think all the Series 3's had it. I built my series one that way when I originally built it. Dale thought it was over kill at the time.

I had a reputation as a bit of a pain in the A** back then, as I was not a fan of some of the construction practices of the day, such as the use of pip pins in friends UL's like the Quicksilver, and was very vocal about it.

Chappy

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:11 pm
by flyalaz
Hi Chappy,

Wow! I don't blame you for being vocal. I used to call them rig pins, and although they are great for hanging your remove before flight flags on, and will screw you up if you forget one, I never considered them for use as a permanent flying fastener! Always better to be a vocal pain in the ass than to stand by and watch somebody thunder in.
And speaking about fasteners, I have a couple of planes with the same dumped rivet condition on the front assembly fuse tube end cap. I have also seen the same condition on another plane. I can tell that these rivets were done with a squeeze, (either hand or pneumatically performed) because the buckings show identical markings/defects. This type of dumping was caused by a snap set or jaws that were too short and fouled on the flanges during the squeeze. I repaired mine because I didn't like the idea of reduced strength on a critical assembly. The planes have lasted a long long time with this condition and probably will still go on a long time yet. In your experience, have you ever noticed this before? Was there only one guy making this assembly and lucky me found the planes with his boo-boo in it?

Curious

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:59 pm
by Chappy
< In your experience, have you ever noticed this before? Was there only one guy making this assembly and lucky me found the planes with his boo-boo in it?>

Karl,

Sorry, I don't remember anything about that.

Chappy

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:16 pm
by flyalaz
Hi Chappy,

O.K. I just figured I'd ask. I sent in another post about this and so far nobody else has answered, so I guess it wasd only a couple of planes that have this snag. I also added the two bolt mod to the front end cap to prevent ith wing clevis from rotating around the center bolt. Helps prevent the wing from turning into a propeller if the rivets shear from mishandling.

Karl

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:32 am
by ola
Matti @ Mar 2 2005, 06:37 AM wrote:I wonder if there are any lazairs here in Europe?
I really would love owning one.

Matti Rissanen
Finland


i know one for sale in sweden if you are intrested (one seater) perfect condition.
send me a mail or call me:+4640261165