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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:04 pm
by lazair
russellrewis @ Apr 14 2009, 03:42 PM wrote:Shannon, it would be very interesting to know just how many members watch this forum on a regular basis. How 'bout a roll call?, nah, that would probably overwhem the site!


This site gets about
-300 to 400 uniques a day.
-3000 pages read daily
-8000 to 10,000 hits a day
- 1 to 3 gig transfer daily.

This is pretty good for a small niche site like this, Our banner ads and your clicks is what helps pay for this site. I can put other ads on and just might one day.

What are your thoughts ? Do you want better ads ?

I could be real cheezy and put a Paypal donate button on it , won't happen

Membership? hmmm not sure about that , but never rule out anything.


Admin, Support

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:43 am
by russell
-300 to 400 uniques a day.
-3000 pages read daily
-8000 to 10,000 hits a day
-1 to 3 gig transfer daily.

I'm not very internet skilled and don't know how a website actually works so I'm gonna have to ask you to interpret the numbers for me, please.
what's a unique? what pages are being read and what is tranfer? See, I told you I'm internet challenged!

As for membership dues, I'm all for it if it means that's what it takes to keep this site going.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:47 pm
by Chappy
[/QUOTE]I don't think Shannon is being too hard on some of the lurkers. It's the guys that don't bother even acknowledging the help they've received that I have issues with. What we see happening is a question asked, and answer or two given, then not so much as a reply back. That folks is absolutely annoying and rude in my book. This forum is full of great information with very talented folks more than willing to help for sure, but at some point that help can dry up too. I've had the discussion with my teen about using the words "thank you" for anything and everything.

Nuf said,
George [QUOTE]


George, Shannon, and the rest of the gang,

In the "good old days", before we had the Internet, I would get many calls from people for help and/or information about Ultralights. Because I was very, very active with EAA and USUA back then, being a founding member of 2 USUA clubs (founding President of Chapter 1) and the Ulralight tech designee for an EAA chapter (that I've been a member of for 40 years now), the Nationals would give my number out to anyone that had a question about Lazairs, and lots of other Ultralight too. Some were high time GA pilots that were curious, some were guys that had never seen an Ultralight but bought a Lazair or what have you at a garage sale, and everything in between. At the peak of the Ultralight movement in the eighties, I would guess that I averaged about an hour a day between club calls and fielding these calls. Later, after Ultraflight went out of business, I tried to keep it to mainly Lazairs. With the birth of my daughter, things changed and I felt I had to retreat somewhat from the Hippy UL life I had lead during those years.

All this background is to say that things then were pretty much as they are now. After spending hours on the phone with someone, and many times a trip to the quick printers to make a copy of a construction manual, I'd never hear from most again. I spent a small fortune over the years copying and mailing manuals. I don't think I was ever reimbursed for even a single one. I got a couple thank you's before the fact, rarely after. Hell, while on vacation once, I drove from Myrtle Beach down to Southern Georgia on my own dime to spend most of a day with a fellow that had wrecked his Lazair on their first flight. I wanted to make sure he had stuck it back together properly (he hadn't). I left him a detailed list a page long of every repair that had to be made before the plane could be considered airworthy. A couple month later I got a call from an NTSB guy doing an investigation of a fatal accident in a Lazair. You can figure out the rest of the story. And no, I never heard from him after my visit. I made a couple follow -up calls but they went nowhere. At least gas was cheap back then.

So you can see that I feel we actually have it pretty good now. I personally never get upset anymore if I don't get a thank you for an Internet post or e-mail. Mostly, I'm just left wondering what became of these people and their Lazairs. I hope that maybe my help over the years has saved a life or two, and in a small way helped keep a few Lazairs flying and out of the recycled scrap heap. That's good enough for me.

And although I'd like to have the time to check into the Lazair sites everyday, it's not possible. Too many hobbies and too much work. Sort of like a life.

Chappy

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:09 am
by Shannon
Chappy I recall my Dad being on the phone many many hours when he was a dealer. I also recall him going out of his way for people with their Lazairs. Looking back I don't think it was worth it for him. Guys always had their own ideas and to a man either tore up their plane or were not successful with Lazairs over the long term for one reason or another. That said I will not take up my time talking to many people on the phone about Lazairs. It's internet or nothing for me.

I do not get upset with the guys who are thankless or disappear. In the future however they need not look me up for anything. I have a great memory too.

Haa Haa, I've noticed that guys with many hobbies are usually not good with any one particuar hobby in their collection ! Reminds me of the guy with a car he's planning to restore... it never happens because he hunts and fishes too much.

Personally I limit my hobbies lest I run out of resources, motivation, and time.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:58 am
by russell
Between mowing the grass and many yard related tasks in the summer and in winter in the house hugging the heat I don't get much hobby time. Guess that's my life.

-300 to 400 uniques a day.
-3000 pages read daily
-8000 to 10,000 hits a day
-1 to 3 gig transfer daily.


I found out what all these terms mean from our IT man and I'm floored. I would never have quessed the numbers could be that great. Shannon, I guess there are a lot of lurkers out there!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:54 am
by Chappy
Shannon @ Apr 16 2009, 11:09 AM wrote:

Haa Haa, I've noticed that guys with many hobbies are usually not good with any one particuar hobby in their collection ! Reminds me of the guy with a car he's planning to restore... it never happens because he hunts and fishes too much.

Personally I limit my hobbies lest I run out of resources, motivation, and time.


I totally agree, Shannon, about having just too many hobbies and staying sane. I guess it's somewhat like the fellow that can keep a clean desk, or one that has great stacks of papers and magazines and reference books on his. You know which I am w/o asking. I was the same way with jobs, never a real career, always moving on to something that looked too interesting to pass up - no matter if it was in my current field or not. Of course, if I had been dedicated to just a narrow slice of life, the chances that I would have built a Lazair and then become a dealer and then split to Canada to work for Dale for tiny little Canadian dollars would probably been slim.

I find that I deal with the multiple hobbies by rotation. Right now I'm pretty heavily back into cycling, which I was crazy about as a teenager before I got my first cars and started taking them all apart. I am currently building a highly modified recumbent bike and planning on converting one of my recumbents to electric motor assist before too long. That actually will serve as a hands-on learning experience if and when I electrify a Lazair. One reason I think I did so well with my series one was my background in small engines and karts. I built my first Lazair's trailer from scratch, thanks to an interest I had in welding and metal working (related to an old Grayhound bus conversion I did) just before I decided to build the Lazair. Sometimes I think it's all a curse, but try as I may it's something that I can't change, and even works for me in some ways.

Oh, and out behind the barn is a 1966 Coronet waiting to snag me in a future weak moment. If I could swear off Google for a few weeks maybe I could get some real work done...

Chappy

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:40 pm
by Shannon
mochamon @ Apr 9 2009, 06:41 PM wrote: If you want to get the 'traditional' look you can get the shrink wrap in clear. It will at least give you the appearance of tedlar. I'll get pics out as soon as I can. Tyler, you might want to invite Bob to this site as I think he will have pics of his EC.


Hi Lee, can you provide a brand name for the wrap on your plane ?

I think I understand now why the jury struts are not connected on your wings. Evidently your wings had jury struts (if that is a jury strut I see laying down on the wing strut) but the attachment brackets were removed when the shink wrap was installed. Being that the wrap is installed "free floating" over the ribs you now may have no way to reinstall the brackets. Can the wrap flex enough for you to be able to install new jury strut attach brackets on the ribs ?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:01 pm
by mochamon
Hey Shannon,

I don't know what the name brand of the shrink wrap is but I will try to find out this weekend, or sooner. As for the jury struts, that was a 'borrowed' strut from a Lazair 3 and I now have the original back. I do think that there would either be enough flex for a strut, or maybe a small slit reinforced with shrink wrap tape on the sides (same idea as for the aileron control rods). I put my plane together last week, the engines started up on the second pull. Awesome.....

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:19 pm
by Shannon
Hi Lee,

Chappy brought about something I didn't even think about and that is the reluctance for the shrink wrap suppliers to want his product to be used on Ultralights. That being said we can easily spread the brand name around in direct email through the site to members interested in the product.

More than likely you can construct the needed Jury strut attachment brakets and install them to the rib directly over the shrink wrap with no cutting. Much like this picture of Georges wing a capstrip goes on first and the J-strut bracket is then riveted on.

You definitely want to run the heck out of your engines before you fly. Pay particular attention to condition of the fuel system. Replace anything that looks bad or contaminated (lines, filters, tank). Check condition of the compression releases (if equipped) and make sure the carburetor attachment nuts are tight (if they aren't safety wired). Generally just check everything good !

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:46 pm
by JPXman
i'll tell you a story about fuel systems. A long time ago, probably the summer of 2000 i was finishing my rebuild and asked shannon for advice on the fuel system. He gave me a volume of great information. being the "smart" guy i was, i took the bits i thought useful and then did my own thing.

well, here i am 9 years later, and my fuel systems on my lazairs look IDENTICAL to exactly what shannon described 9 years ago...funny how a stubborn guy like me take the long route on things.

heed the shannon-man, he knows.

Tyler

PS: if you've never flown the plane before, order some new blue fuel lines from airwolf on the internet. they ship fast. if your fuel lines are at all hardened or cracked, replace the whole thing. its worth the 3 day wait and the $20.