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Postby rayjb60 » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:53 pm

Shannon..... I have good insurance ;-)

Actually I have a hand deployed(throw hard) Paragliding type chute.
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Postby Shannon » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:33 pm

Ray you talking about a hand-throw chute like one on these gliders ?

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Postby rayjb60 » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:46 pm

Shannon,

Whole aircraft parachute for the Lazair, that I use is like these>

Hand Deployed Parachutes

I think that might be the same type as on the BiPlane glider pic, but it does not have to be back mounted.

Mike Sandlin visists the sites I paraglide from ocasionally his planes are cool and he flys from the same launches as the Hang gliders.

His planes are ideal for flying along the ridge lift at Torrey Pines in San Diego, but god help him if he ever runs out of lift and has to land on the beach 300' below.....hauling the plane out of there in peices by hand would be torture.

Maybe he could get some help from the nude sunbathers....LOL....(Blacks Beach=Nude)

Ray
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Postby Guest » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:23 am

I wouldn't mind the help as long as they weren't from San Francisco.

Ray have you done any research on this type of recovery system.

http://www.ultralight.ca/recovery/default1.htm
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Postby Guest » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:25 am

Ray have you done any research on this type of recovery system ?
http://www.ultralight.ca/recovery/default1.htm
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Postby Shannon » Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:06 am

Ray have you looked into this type of system.

http://www.ultralight.ca/recovery/default1.htm
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Postby Shannon » Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:25 am

Ray you posted this on the LazairFlyers forum.

"I can put my lazair together by myself without any
assistance in 30mins when the place is deserted, but
it mostly takes an hour because I always get people
comming over to ask questions and admire the Lazair.

You will certainly stand out anywhere you go!

You need a ratchet and a couple wrenches to attach the
wings 4-nuts/bolts at root, 1 bolt ailerons hookup,
wing struts = 4 nuts/bolts, engines = 8 bolts (I use a
portable electric drill to get everything in place and
then follow up with the ratchet), attach fuel
hose/throttle linkage, wing root covers and its done.

Ray"


Could you describe how you assemble the plane by yourself. What type of rigging are you using ? Anyway just curious ?

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Postby rayjb60 » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:49 pm

I found there is a definate order to assembly/disassembly that makes it possible and quite easy to do the whole process alone without help:

Here are the steps for my Series II:

Assembly:

1) Roll out Fuselage from trailer.

2) Get one wing panel and attach with 2 wing root bolts/nuts till finger tight....tip resting on ground.

3) Get other wing panel and attach 2 wing root bolts/nuts till finger tight....tip resting on ground.

4) Attach wing struts at wheel end first finger tight, then lift wing panel onto your shoulder, under the spar, and attach strut end to mid wing attach point and fully tighten both ends of strut.

5) Attach other wind strut as in step 4. Sometimes the other wing gets pushed down to the ground when your doing this side so you have to reach higher to get the strut attached to the wing.....Im 5'11" and its not a problem.

6) Attach Aileron control rods & bolt to mixer.

7) Fully tighten wing root attach bolts.

8) Attach engines to wings, including fuel tubing, throttle linkage and ground ignition wire.

9) Attach instruments.

10) Thorough preflight, fuel her up, check all controls for free motion, prime engines.

Disassembly is the exact opposite.

NO supports, benches or any accessories required or wanted as they ussualy tip over and become a nusisance !!!



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Postby rayjb60 » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:31 pm

Shannon,

With respect to the recovery system link, cost is to much!

I can buy a small ballistic system for $200 more than their small spring loaded system.

Don't even ask about repack hassles and delivery times back to their factory.

My hand toss chute is $800 USD with repack of $35 yearly, locally while I wait and will work as low as 200' AGL.

I also have the adantage of deciding on direction of deployment to avoid tangles.

Its all a compromise one way or another so I might as well take the simplest approach, which ussually works best.

I simply rip the velcro attached bag from the Lazair and throw it where I need it to go...the bag reaches the end of the tether and pulls the canopy out.....cant get much simpler than that.....no safety pins.....detonators, or springs to deal with.

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Postby Guest » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:08 am

rayjb60 @ Oct 13 2005, 02:49 PM wrote: I found there is a definate order to assembly/disassembly that makes it possible and quite easy to do the whole process alone without help:

Here are the steps for my Series II:

Assembly:

1) Roll out Fuselage from trailer.

2) Get one wing panel and attach with 2 wing root bolts/nuts till finger tight....tip resting on ground.

3) Get other wing panel and attach 2 wing root bolts/nuts till finger tight....tip resting on ground.

4) Attach wing struts at wheel end first finger tight, then lift wing panel onto your shoulder, under the spar, and attach strut end to mid wing attach point and fully tighten both ends of strut.

5) Attach other wind strut as in step 4. Sometimes the other wing gets pushed down to the ground when your doing this side so you have to reach higher to get the strut attached to the wing.....Im 5'11" and its not a problem.

6) Attach Aileron control rods & bolt to mixer.

7) Fully tighten wing root attach bolts.

8) Attach engines to wings, including fuel tubing, throttle linkage and ground ignition wire.

9) Attach instruments.

10) Thorough preflight, fuel her up, check all controls for free motion, prime engines.

Disassembly is the exact opposite.

NO supports, benches or any accessories required or wanted as they ussualy tip over and become a nusisance !!!



Ray


Ray you may want to review assembly procedures outlined in the Series 2 manual (available here. It says to never let the tips touch the ground during assembly. You could wrench your front wing attach fitting and damage it.
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