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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:12 pm
by Shannon
Pioneers flying Pioneers !

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:29 pm
by Shannon
Series 1 Take-off

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:48 pm
by Shannon
Series 1 Take-off (Note the long runway)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:57 pm
by Shannon
Series 1

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:59 am
by lazflyn
Way cool pics Shannon. That version of Lazair seems so far removed from what a Lazair seems to be today: Bigger engines, instrument pods, cockpit pods and fairings, floats, etc. It fits the definition of minimal to a tee. Even the little itty bitty gas tank. Now that was a powered glider.

Thanks for sharing.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:50 am
by Shannon
Yes, you are right. The early Lazairs were definitely minimal.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:48 am
by russell
Hey.... Be kind now.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:36 pm
by Shannon
Uh well as you just re-discovered the Series I is indeed a marginal plane. This is why many guys with Series I's upgraded various items and re-fitted with 185's. Once done the Lazair had pretty good performance.

This plane was originally a Series 1.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:24 pm
by russell
Yeah, they do have marginal power. That's what makes it so amazing that they can perform loops and barrel rolls. Not by me of course, I bent mine in a strong wind!


PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:36 am
by Shannon
Haa Haa, I remember Peter doing multiple-multiple loops in the early Series 1 with the engines off. Heck fully half his show routine was with the engines off. He was a small guy so the plane flew fairly well with him. I wish I had a video of him flying.

Personally if I had a Series 1 with Pioneers I'd be looking to upgrade atleast to the Series 2 (or 3) layout and add Rotax's. I recall when I first saw a Lazair with 185's (the one in the pic below). The increase in performance was a revolutionary step forward. Performance went from marginal to very acceptable on the light early Series. Too bad they didn't have P-tips back then.