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Postby Ultraflyn55 » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:20 pm

Yeah ! Just how does one get "original grade" Tedlar ??




Pulled from the LazairFlyers Forum in an original post by Steve Butcher 12/29/03 8:05 EST

Quote:
This is directed at John Nagy... but if anyone else has something
to contribute... please chime in.

I just got off the phone with a Dow sales rep after a short
conversation concerning the procurement of Tedlar PVF film. I
represented myself as a grower in need of a sufficient amount of
Tedlar for my greenhouses. The advise I was given concerning
the type of Tedlar was excellent! They certainly know their
product. One of the recommendations was TUT20BG3 for its
strength, durability, UV resistance, longivity, etc. So far so good...
but what I was told in the very next sentence shocked me. A
minimum purchase was one full roll of film at a cost exceeding
$80,000 US!!! Wow! I managed to croak out if this material
could be had in smaller quantities but was politely told "Not by
Dupont". I was given Richmond Aircraft Products in Norwalk, CA
as a possible small lot purchase source. In contacting
Richmond I was told they will sell small lots but they do not
handle the particular film I'm needing. Bummer!

So... this is a long winded way of asking just how & where you
were able to purchase the Tedlar for your fellow LazairFlyers?
My need is not for a Lazair... but for an older ultralight called an
Invader MKlllB that I'm building from plans. I'm actually not ready
to cover but that bridge will come soon enough. Any help would
be greatly appreciated!

Steve
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Postby Ultraflyn45 » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:32 pm

[COLOR=red]Well we may never know because we can't talk about such things in the public domain ! What a Crock bunch of utter BS garbage ![SIZE=7]
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Postby lazair » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:15 pm

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TEDLAR ISSUE
UltraFlyn, I am not sure the motivation here on the TEDLAR issue, but I have found a post from the TEDLAR guy with a phone number. Perhaps a phone call to Mr Nagy would be in order to clarify this matter?
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Also  why is everyone so secret ?  Hell  life goes on out side of  cyber world.    This is supposed ot be a group effort ?

[b]
From: John Nagy
To: Lazairflyers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Lazairflyers] Hanging Lazair from the ceiling.


Hi Bill

I've been hanging my Lazair III from the ceiling for two years now. We
started out attaching the tree ropes with clasps at the end to the two
engine mounts on the wing side of the lord mounts and one on the tail boom
behind the seat attachment. That worked reall well for stability but I
concluded that there was a constant turning force on the D cells 24/7 365
days a year.

After that I started to attach the two front ones down on the axils just
inboard of the brake assembly . This is good for a series three with the
wider wheel base. If you have a 1 or earlier II maybe the engine mount thing
might not be too bad. I think it would be too unstable to attach at the
axils with the narrower wheel base. I didn't find any damage with that way ,
just thought the axils were better.

Give me a call if you'd like to chat. 519-372-1762

John
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Postby Guest » Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:36 am

If you think you will get anything from the "Tedlar Guy" you must be kidding, right ? A simple question requires a simple answer. Obviously that isn't what you are going to get. The fact remains, Where does one get TUT20BG3 Tedlar ? You know, the kind supplied with the kits. It's a mystery to be solved away from the cyber world evidently ! Then again reading between the lines things may not be as they seem, may they ??? The mystery remains ! Truth is self evident !
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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:58 pm

:huh: I agree with Lazair on this issue.
Not sure what your game plan really is ?

There are 2 other sources for tedlar besides Mr. Nagy.
Of course the only place tedlar originates from is the factory and that is Dupont.
So as seems evident ,to obtain an order from them can be
extremely difficult unless you have very deep pockets.

Another route to go would be covering with fabric as several other fellows have done with very good results.

Best of luck in your quest.
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Postby ozzie » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:10 pm

QUOTE (Ultraflyn55 @ Dec 29 2003, 11:20 PM)
Yeah ! Just how does one get "original grade" Tedlar ??




Pulled from the LazairFlyers Forum in an original post by Steve Butcher 12/29/03 8:05 EST

Quote:
This is directed at John Nagy... but if anyone else has something
to contribute... please chime in.

I just got off the phone with a Dow sales rep after a short
conversation concerning the procurement of Tedlar PVF film. I
represented myself as a grower in need of a sufficient amount of
Tedlar for my greenhouses. The advise I was given concerning
the type of Tedlar was excellent! They certainly know their
product. One of the recommendations was TUT20BG3 for its
strength, durability, UV resistance, longivity, etc. So far so good...
but what I was told in the very next sentence shocked me. A
minimum purchase was one full roll of film at a cost exceeding
$80,000 US!!! Wow! I managed to croak out if this material
could be had in smaller quantities but was politely told "Not by
Dupont". I was given Richmond Aircraft Products in Norwalk, CA
as a possible small lot purchase source. In contacting
Richmond I was told they will sell small lots but they do not
handle the particular film I'm needing. Bummer!

So... this is a long winded way of asking just how & where you
were able to purchase the Tedlar for your fellow LazairFlyers?
My need is not for a Lazair... but for an older ultralight called an
Invader MKlllB that I'm building from plans. I'm actually not ready
to cover but that bridge will come soon enough. Any help would
be greatly appreciated!

Steve

:P polymer try this company(dupont arn't the only ones who make this stuff) Fothergill Tygaflor Ltd po box 2 Summit Littlebough Lancashire 0L15 DLT England
product Tygavac RF205 size 1mtr x 137x .050mm this product has flown on a lazair in the late eighties
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Postby ozzie » Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:03 pm

does anyone know were to locate dale or any of his staff
if so twist his arm and find out just how he got hold of mylar and tedlar ie over the counter or was it done covertley and that we have all asumumed that it was purchased with duponts knowledge as to what it was for. if it was done kosha then we may be able to talk to dupont as for stufing anything up for others by asking dupont to supply well they arn't getting it now anyway. someone pls find dale and ask him. ozzie
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Postby ozzie » Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:28 pm

shannon you say that mylar is still available over the counter. unfortunatley not here in australia. were can i obtain it on your side of the world thanks ozzie. (no relation to black sabbeth ozzie)
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Postby Shannon » Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:38 pm

Hi Ozzie,

Check with the Spruce Aircraft supplier in Sydney. +61-2-47738241 sparrowflyte@bigpond.com

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Postby ozzie » Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:19 pm

thanks, it would be right if after 2 yrs of seaching that i may find it just down the road i'll ring them after the australia day holiday. let you know the outcome. ozzie
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