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Postby Matti » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:37 am

I wonder if there are any lazairs here in Europe?
I really would love owning one.

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Postby Shannon » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:05 pm

Hello Matti,

A guy named Hakan (last name unknown) in Sweden has a Series 2. He has not requested any information or participated on the Lazair groups since Dec 2003. His last known e-mail address is hw@semera.se

There are 4-5 Lazairs in England also.

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Postby Chappy » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:04 pm

Ultraflight had rather high hopes for a British market for their Lazair. They went so far as to put it through the British Microlight certification. IIRC, their English dealer handled a good portion of it. Very little actually had to be addressed. One change that was required by them that I do remember was to stop using nylock nuts on the bolts that could rotate that were used in the control system. I wonder how many ailerons were lost before Ultraflight did that? Actually, I do know of one. Dale Kramer himself was flying a company demonstrator at Sun n' Fun when an aileron tore off - after one of the nylock nuts worked off an aileron pivot bolt.

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Postby flyalaz » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:30 pm

Was there a factory fix? Cotter pins and castellated nuts?

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Postby Guest » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:03 pm

Karl,

Yes, that's what was done. I don't remember exactly when that made it to all the kits, but I think all the Series 3's had it. I built my series one that way when I originally built it. Dale thought it was over kill at the time.

I had a reputation as a bit of a pain in the A** back then, as I was not a fan of some of the construction practices of the day, such as the use of pip pins in friends UL's like the Quicksilver, and was very vocal about it.

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Postby flyalaz » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:11 pm

Hi Chappy,

Wow! I don't blame you for being vocal. I used to call them rig pins, and although they are great for hanging your remove before flight flags on, and will screw you up if you forget one, I never considered them for use as a permanent flying fastener! Always better to be a vocal pain in the ass than to stand by and watch somebody thunder in.
And speaking about fasteners, I have a couple of planes with the same dumped rivet condition on the front assembly fuse tube end cap. I have also seen the same condition on another plane. I can tell that these rivets were done with a squeeze, (either hand or pneumatically performed) because the buckings show identical markings/defects. This type of dumping was caused by a snap set or jaws that were too short and fouled on the flanges during the squeeze. I repaired mine because I didn't like the idea of reduced strength on a critical assembly. The planes have lasted a long long time with this condition and probably will still go on a long time yet. In your experience, have you ever noticed this before? Was there only one guy making this assembly and lucky me found the planes with his boo-boo in it?

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Postby Chappy » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:59 pm

< In your experience, have you ever noticed this before? Was there only one guy making this assembly and lucky me found the planes with his boo-boo in it?>

Karl,

Sorry, I don't remember anything about that.

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Postby flyalaz » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:16 pm

Hi Chappy,

O.K. I just figured I'd ask. I sent in another post about this and so far nobody else has answered, so I guess it wasd only a couple of planes that have this snag. I also added the two bolt mod to the front end cap to prevent ith wing clevis from rotating around the center bolt. Helps prevent the wing from turning into a propeller if the rivets shear from mishandling.

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Postby ola » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:32 am

Matti @ Mar 2 2005, 06:37 AM wrote:I wonder if there are any lazairs here in Europe?
I really would love owning one.

Matti Rissanen
Finland


i know one for sale in sweden if you are intrested (one seater) perfect condition.
send me a mail or call me:+4640261165
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