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Postby pittsnut » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:32 pm

Hello again,

Anyone rebuilding their little jewel and needs materials, I am puting another order in for tapes and Tedlar.

Please let me know if you are intersted.

I also have a cowl and windshield, 2 sets of wheel pants and a series 2 that will be rebuilt and recovered if anyone is interested, please give me a call at;

1-519-534-1388

Thanks

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Postby ozzie » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:45 am

how much $s and what materials and quanity.
i am going to buy that series one that had the engines stolen.
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Postby pittsnut » Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:48 pm

Hey Ozzie,

I will try to keep it quiet so the misses can't hear. Great to know you picked up a series 1.

I am selling a complete recovering kit for $650 cnd. The price of Tedlar has hit an all time high and I don't think it will come down. The commercial airliners are being refitted and they use Tedlar as a laminate on most for the plastics.

The kit includes the following,

1. 100 foot roll of PVF 2 mil. clear Tedlar film.
2. 2 rolls of 3M PVF double sided fowm tape.
3. 1 roll of 3M PVF double sided Tedlar tape.
4. 4 rolls of 3M 2 inch aluminum foil leading edge tape
5. 4 rolls of 3M 2 inch clear single sided finishing tape.

Ola is tring to get me to include a recovering CD or list it as a down load on this site. I am not sure what to do as I may be liable. I will think about it.

The main trick is to clean off all the aluminum until it's bare. I scarp all the old glue and foam tape off with a sarp paint scraper. You will need to re-tape some of the rib cap strips with the reinforced tapes. Also you want the temp of the aluminum above 70 degrees and let the tapes sit awhile before you add the covering to let the tapes set before you peel the paper backing off. Other than that take your time and get some help.

Let me know what you need.

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Postby art » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:49 am

When will Tedlar be available? Art
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Postby xgary » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:39 pm

This was sent out today by this site .....

Ultralight News EXTRA
This was sent to us, as an information resource site we are sending it
out to anyone using Tedlar in aircraft application.

I am the account manager for DuPont Tedlar® films in Canada

I Seen mention of Tedlar® use in ultralight aircraft in the website.
There seemed to be some questions as to why DuPont does not sell Tedlar®
for ultra light aircraft. I thought you should be aware of the info
below..



DuPont will not sell Tedlar ® PVF film for use in lightweight aircraft
applications. Tedlar® has a tendency to tear when punctured. Tear
propagation is known to increase as the film ages. Ultraviolet damage
and
film tearing may result in total wing failure. Under no circumstances
should the Tedlar® PVF film be relied upon to keep the aircraft in the
air.

As previously stated , DuPont strongly discourages the use of Tedlar®
PVF film as a wing surfacing material for ultra-light aircraft and does
not knowingly sell this product for such use.

You are invited to visit
http://www.ultralightnews.com
http://www.ultralightnews.ca
http://www.ultralightflyer.com
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Postby daffy1029 » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:56 pm

Hi,
I just want to make a point here. Tedlar has worked very well on Lazairs for over 20 years. It is very light and gives the Lazair it's unique look and I don't think there has ever been a Lazair accident because of the Tedlar. It is an area that we have to keep watching during pre-flights and I for one would not use anything else.
It's proven technology that has worked very well, for a long time, and that's good enough for me!

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Postby ola » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:40 pm

what can you say, they eat frogs.....
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Postby xgary » Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:29 pm

Well, one has to ask themselves why Dave Loveman put out this new release ?

Maybe he knows John Nagy or His buddy Dale George and is pissed off at them or

sumthing is my guess.

I think to clear the air Who over is Buying or selling TEDLAR should post the SPECS and till then I would not touch it .


Same as TAPES ........... only guy that had the right tapes was George and he had them made.


Live and learn to some ,,,,,,, also I like tedlar yoo but you can use fabric without any troubles for a lazair. And i would use it over Mylar anyday.

Funny thing is that "NEWS RELEASE " that Dave Loveman put out did not have any name on it or DATE so how credible it is no one s knows.

I did a search for it and cannot find it . As far as i am concerned I would suggest that and anyone doing business with Any of the above --proceed with caution.( execpt George as he is 100% trusted)
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Postby ozzie » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:15 am

Dale have a look at my posts and video on removing tape ect with steam and citrasolve. i plan to redo the video and it is not as messy as it looks.

when would the tedlar be ready to ship? this would cost about 950aus+ tax
will you just supply the tedlar the weight of the tapes will cost heaps to send, compared to buying it here. i'll try and get tony to buy as well.

to cover the foam tape from the sun i use a thin silver foil tape scotch 850 polester 24mm. pricey tho 73 aus enough to do several lazairs to a roll.


AS for Mr Dupont< get a dog upya!>

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Postby pittsnut » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:47 am

WOW, what a thread...

I am fully aware of Dupont's position on selling Tedlar or any other material, to be used as an aircraft covering. They DO NOT sell it to anyone who is using it as aircraft covering.

Tedlar should Not be used as an aircraft covering material, it is very weather sensitive and tears extremely easily.

I am also very aware that, my Lazairs, my Pitts, and my Starduster are all experimental aircraft and as such, do not imply any liability to those manufacturers who's materials are used in their construction.

Please remember, that we build and fly these aircraft at our own risk. We should all ensure that those who choose to use "non certified" materials, do so at their own risk.

I would manufacture Lazairs in an instant, the project cannot justify the liability insurance. I am sure Dale may agree.

I own an aircraft company. and we use many of Dupont's "certified" materials. I am also working with Dupont's Vectran, (a non certified material), with carbon fiber filiments in the X and Y. So far the material is working well and may pass certification. I am not holding my breath, but it may work out.

Until later,

Happy Flying and be Safe! :D

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