Ultralight Crash in Ontario Canada

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Postby lazair » Wed May 19, 2004 11:30 am

http://www.mykawartha.com/ka/news/peter ... 2787c.html

Same topic as was discussed here a few weeks ago.
If you not able to sense and recover from a spin or a stall, get some
training. If not stay on ground.


http://www.mykawartha.com/ka/news/peter ... /1926898p-

Fergus pair dies in ultralight crash
May 19, 2004

Lance Anderson - More from this author

Kyle Griffin/This Week
GRIM AFTERMATH : Steve Brooks of ABA Auto Wreckers examines what
remains of a Challenger ultralight aircraft that crashed Sunday near
Keene, killing both its occupants.

A man and woman from Fergus, Ontario died Sunday afternoon when their
ultralight plane spiraled into a farmer's field just west of Keene.

Peterborough County OPP Senior Constable Robert LaFreniere said
witnesses watched as the plane's wings folded upward and the aircraft
plummeted into a field near Duncan's Line and McGregor Bay Road.

Peter Mezciems, 56, was flying the plane, accompanied by Laurie
Nicholl , also 56.

"People in the area were drawn to the sound of the light aircraft,"
says Sr. Const. LaFreniere.

"Someone said they heard the engine stall and saw the plane turn

Moments later, another witness noticed the wings buckle, adds Sr.
Const. LaFreniere. The Challenger 2 ultralight then went into a
downward spiral.

The plane came down in a farmer's field. When contacted by
Peterborough This Week, the property owner was uncomfortable speaking
about the crash.

Parts of the plane were gathered Friday night and towed to a yard
near Fraserville.

Sr. Const. LaFreniere says he has no idea why the pilot was in this
area and what caused the crash.

Transport Canada has been notified and the investigation continues.

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Postby xgary » Wed May 19, 2004 4:31 pm

challenger pretty good safety record... pilot error?
or put together-in-ahurry-itis-and forget-sumthing?

sad but true --stallspin big % age of the ul fatalities

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Postby b diedenhofen » Thu May 20, 2004 8:49 am

A spin wouldn't cause the wings to fail though. Only if, during recovery, the aircraft was allowed to pick up excess speed and the pilot was too agressive in the pull-up. All pilots should do spin training to learn how to avoid them, but also the correct way to recover if it happens. The challenger, like the Lazair, is a very strong airplane. It would take a huge screw up in a spin to tear a wing off. I wonder if this was a mechanical failure of some sort? From the witnessses, it sounds like the wing failed and then it spiraled. I don't think anyone can inspect their aircraft too much. Do a thourough walkaround everytime you fly and inspect everything the same way and in the same order each time. That way, you're less likely to miss anything. Cracks in the strut attach fittings will be difficult to see, so, take your time. If you like to trailer your Lazair, make certain that all the bolts (and especially thier nuts) are in before you fly!

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Postby lazair » Thu May 20, 2004 1:30 pm

Here is some Challenger talk for you guys.

Possibly some Mods were done incorretly.

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Postby rcflyer » Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:47 pm

Anyone find out what really happened?? Any Reports yet? It is very sad but true that we can all learn from such accidents. I hope all of you go out and practice stalls. I have never got my Lazair to spin and John and I have tried.

A Challenger will spin if held into the stall long enough. John is a level 1 instructor for general aircraft with over 14,000 hrs. He is also a Transport Canada flight test examiner. He feels very upset when he hears of such accidents. Proper training and the mental part of flying is so important.

If any of you ever want any advise re stalls or spins, give John a call.
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Postby daffy1029 » Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:37 pm

Would a ballistic chute not have helped here? This is really sad...
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Postby xgary » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:01 am

this accident i understand was a control rod to elevator failure.
The owner (pilot) apparanlyl did modifications to extend this rod to get he stick away from his larger than normal stomach.

there may of been binding and the rod would bend a bit and finally broker at the orginal holes where it was extended. The binding went un noticed and finally this part may of broke because of this. Unfortunatly endingi n death of pilot and passenger.
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